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Offline JesseD

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #360 on: 08/03/2008 03:06 am »
I think the feed is WAY lagging.. There is no way the engine fired for the heck of it.

Yeah, I figured the same... afterward....but hey, everybody can use a shot of adrenaline late at night! :) ;D

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #361 on: 08/03/2008 03:06 am »
This is by far the most interesting launch I've followed to date.  Long holds, countdowns, aborts, and still more chances for launch.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #362 on: 08/03/2008 03:08 am »
Anyone know how much window time is left?

If I remember right it was 2.5 hours 2 hours ago... Something tells me they just wont risk another try tonight.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #363 on: 08/03/2008 03:08 am »
Some kind of flare so the ignition part worked?  Then abort within seconds? 

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #364 on: 08/03/2008 03:08 am »
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #365 on: 08/03/2008 03:09 am »
One of the propulsion data was about 1% out of range.  Looking promising for restarting the clock at T-10min.  Not confirmed yet. - Max

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #366 on: 08/03/2008 03:09 am »
Thank god they don't have SRB.  That would have made that one a whole lot more tragic.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #367 on: 08/03/2008 03:09 am »
Very fast turnarounds on all the mode changes- the strongback comes up fairly quickly, fueling is fast, etc.

I wonder how much of that is an actual advantage versus just less conservatism than found in a typical (ULA for example) launch. 

When your customer  has hundreds of millions to billions of dollars flying on your launcher, you don't act in a cavalier or hurried manner.


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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #368 on: 08/03/2008 03:09 am »
They've re-cycled the countdown clock to about 10mins.  Seems to me if this is a propulsion 1% error like they're talking...we could still get a liftoff tonight!
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #369 on: 08/03/2008 03:10 am »
Did anyone hear someone say bandwidth a bit before the launch? Is it possible it was related to the lag?

Because for some reason that was some SERIOUS lag with the camera view. Not even being hooked up through a Sat feed has that much lag.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #370 on: 08/03/2008 03:10 am »
One of the propulsion data was about 1% out of range.  Looking promising for restarting the clock at T-10min.  Not confirmed yet. - Max
lol... if I recall, last launch attempt this was announced rather unofficially (and colorfully) by an engineer who forgot to turn his mic off?
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #371 on: 08/03/2008 03:10 am »
Clock has been reset to T-11min and we are still holding.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #372 on: 08/03/2008 03:11 am »
Webcast announcer said one parameter was 1% out of range and that a countdown reset to T-10 minutes was possible
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #373 on: 08/03/2008 03:11 am »
Not that I am a superstitious person, but I am getting some bad vibes....

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #374 on: 08/03/2008 03:11 am »
Well, the clock is currently showing T-11 minutes so that leaves them some time yet if they can launch from that point.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #375 on: 08/03/2008 03:11 am »
Can we please stop talking about individual technical issues with the webcast. People are here for launch updates. Thanks.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #376 on: 08/03/2008 03:12 am »
Webcast announcer said one parameter was 1% out of range and that a countdown reset to T-10 minutes was possible

Possible but they are REALLY eating up whatever window time is left. The big drain hold was already pushing the limit.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #377 on: 08/03/2008 03:12 am »
Thank god they don't have SRB.  That would have made that one a whole lot more tragic.


No, SRB's don't light until the main engine are at thrust and checked out.   This wouldn't have been a problem for vehicles with SRM's


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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #378 on: 08/03/2008 03:13 am »
Webcast announcer said one parameter was 1% out of range and that a countdown reset to T-10 minutes was possible

Possible but they are REALLY eating up whatever window time is left. The big drain hold was already pushing the limit.

They've got just about 35 minutes to figure out if they can launch or not.  They'll do it in their own time, if they can't launch today, tomorrow will be there.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #379 on: 08/03/2008 03:14 am »
Some kind of flare so the ignition part worked?  Then abort within seconds? 

That is how the hold down clamps work to my understanding.  They ignite, check that everything looks good, and then either abort or release the vehicle.

The delays are all the whacky video and audio piping setup - although I wouldn't be surprised if they have an intentional delay on the video from the island, because a 15 second delay to their remote command center at SpaceX HQ seems like a problem.

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