Some of the competition for Baltimore-DC. http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/18/baltimore-dc-maglev-train-costs
Quote from: CuddlyRocket on 10/21/2017 08:55 pmMy reason for doubting it is that no-one has made a working hyperloop yet (and those closest are third-party companies), whereas an electric skate seems a straightforward application of current technology - well within the capability of Tesla engineers. The Boring Company is interested in developing tunneling technology, not transportation, and this seems a nice way of making initial experiments pay for themselves.There's no reason why TBC couldn't hire Hyperloop One to install a hyperloop track in the tunnel. HLO has made a working hyperloop, albeit not yet one that can carry people.
My reason for doubting it is that no-one has made a working hyperloop yet (and those closest are third-party companies), whereas an electric skate seems a straightforward application of current technology - well within the capability of Tesla engineers. The Boring Company is interested in developing tunneling technology, not transportation, and this seems a nice way of making initial experiments pay for themselves.
The thing that amazes me most about this Baltimore-Washington project is that they are just going to start digging the tunnel without a multi-billion dollar contract. Who will own the tunnel? How is this going to connect to the existing transportation infrastructure? The thing is, if they end up providing a transportation link of whatever type that reduces surface traffic and eases the commute, which under a normal contracting process would cost billions, and do it for even a few hundred million (an order of magnitude cheaper) that would be a greater revolition in transportation than just having a hyper loop or electric sleds.
We don't know what type of transportation is envisaged for the tunnel, but to me the most effective would be hyper loop that connects from Baltimores light rail to the Washington Metro system, ideally to a hub so as not to over saturate a particular rail line. The connection might be the most complicated part, but it would be so obviously worth it and cost effective that government funding to do it will be provided.
Quote from: Jcc on 10/22/2017 02:30 pmWe don't know what type of transportation is envisaged for the tunnel, but to me the most effective would be hyper loop that connects from Baltimores light rail to the Washington Metro system, ideally to a hub so as not to over saturate a particular rail line. The connection might be the most complicated part, but it would be so obviously worth it and cost effective that government funding to do it will be provided.Why hyperloop for such a short run? No real advantage from its speed and complexity plus high risk and high up front installation cost vs simple electric sleds moving cars in 10 or so minutes. SpaceX usually takes the simple, direct solution. Boring Company shares the engineering/management DNA.
Quote from: philw1776 on 10/22/2017 03:57 pmQuote from: Jcc on 10/22/2017 02:30 pmWe don't know what type of transportation is envisaged for the tunnel, but to me the most effective would be hyper loop that connects from Baltimores light rail to the Washington Metro system, ideally to a hub so as not to over saturate a particular rail line. The connection might be the most complicated part, but it would be so obviously worth it and cost effective that government funding to do it will be provided.Why hyperloop for such a short run? No real advantage from its speed and complexity plus high risk and high up front installation cost vs simple electric sleds moving cars in 10 or so minutes. SpaceX usually takes the simple, direct solution. Boring Company shares the engineering/management DNA.Good question! To me the answer is that it would enable moving the greatest number of people and produce the greatest benefit in reducing surface car traffic within the city as well as between cities. It would also be a proof of the technology, and promote interest in completing hyper loop to New York.But, it could be sleds for cars, that would serve people who want/need to drive to their final destination.
Why hyperloop for such a short run? No real advantage from its speed and complexity plus high risk and high up front installation cost vs simple electric sleds moving cars in 10 or so minutes. SpaceX usually takes the simple, direct solution. Boring Company shares the engineering/management DNA.
Quote from: philw1776 on 10/22/2017 03:57 pmWhy hyperloop for such a short run? No real advantage from its speed and complexity plus high risk and high up front installation cost vs simple electric sleds moving cars in 10 or so minutes. SpaceX usually takes the simple, direct solution. Boring Company shares the engineering/management DNA.But then you wouldn't have the hyperloop technology.Why is it such an effort to believe Musk and local officials that he is building a hyperloop?
In general I try to take people fairly literally. But you have to realize how common it is for people to misuse terminology.
Just received verbal govt approval for The Boring Company to build an underground NY-Phil-Balt-DC Hyperloop. NY-DC in 29 mins.
For sure. First set of tunnels are to alleviate greater LA urban congestion. Will start NY-DC in parallel. Then prob LA-SF and a TX loop.
Any information on the Hawthorne boring? Wondering if they're going to connect to the docks...