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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #360 on: 10/07/2017 07:05 PM »
North Korea preparing long-range missile test: RIA cites Russian lawmaker

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MOSCOW (Reuters) - North Korea is preparing to test a long-range missile which it believes can reach the west coast of the United States, a Russian lawmaker just returned from a visit to Pyongyang was quoted as saying on Friday.

Anton Morozov, a member of the Russian lower house of parliament’s international affairs committee, and two other Russian lawmakers visited Pyongyang on Oct. 2-6, Russia’s RIA news agency reported.

“They are preparing for new tests of a long-range missile. They even gave us mathematical calculations that they believe prove that their missile can hit the west coast of the United States,” RIA quoted Morozov as saying.

“As far as we understand, they intend to launch one more long-range missile in the near future. And in general, their mood is rather belligerent.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-russia/north-korea-preparing-long-range-missile-test-ria-cites-russian-lawmaker-idUSKBN1CB21T

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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #361 on: 10/18/2017 04:58 PM »
Relevant to this thread.

Doubts Growing US Will Always Defend Asian Allies

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SEOUL --- In South Korea and Japan there is increasing support for the deployment of nuclear weapons to defend against the growing North Korean threat, and due to public concern that the U.S. may no longer be counted on to aid allies with extended nuclear deterrence.

The U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency estimates North Korea may have as many as 60 nuclear weapons, and that it might have successfully miniaturized nuclear warheads to fit on its arsenal of 1,000 missiles.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/187701/doubts-growing-us-will-always-defend-asian-allies.html

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Re: North Korea missiles
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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #364 on: 11/22/2017 06:13 AM »
N. Korea seems to have a problem with re-entry capability on its ICBMs.
See: http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/North_Korean_ICBM_program_runs_into_major_roadblock_at_reentry_999.html

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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #365 on: 11/27/2017 12:28 AM »
N. Korea seems to have a problem with re-entry capability on its ICBMs.
See: http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/North_Korean_ICBM_program_runs_into_major_roadblock_at_reentry_999.html


I am surprised that this has not been discussed earlier.


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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #366 on: 11/27/2017 06:22 PM »
It has been widely discussed at the time of the launches.

The evidence that the reentry vehicles failed was not that great.
It still looked like the NK reentry vehicle survived long enough for an air burst, using yield from the last test. *
The armscontrolwonks once more dug up a declassified study about early US reentry testing. Most of the failed test did not break up but veered off course, hitting outside the systems CEP. (Consistent ablation rates seem to be hard.)

The articles are not that rosy if you say no ground burst for NK and likely just hitting a different part of a city target.  :(


*: Some articles said it broke up at 1 mile height. Which happens to be the default air burst height for 150kt on nukemap...
What I would like to know is how would it look if they stuffed their gadget with conventional explosives and set it for airburst. We know that they rigged some rocket stages with self destuction charges to prevent recovery or at least make it harder.

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North Korea missiles
« Reply #367 on: 11/28/2017 05:37 PM »
BBC reporting that North Korea has fired a ballistic missile. They are quoting South Korean reports.

In that article it’s described as a new ballistic missile.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-42160227
« Last Edit: 11/28/2017 05:50 PM by Star One »

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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #368 on: 11/28/2017 05:58 PM »
According to CNN it is still in the air  ATM possibly a high altitude flight to test the RV...
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« Reply #369 on: 11/28/2017 06:18 PM »
https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/935587658650222592
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NK missile impacted Sea of Japan, so no Japan overflight this time.
Could still be one of the high apogee tests, or just a smaller missile.

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« Reply #370 on: 11/28/2017 07:11 PM »
https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/935601293338521600
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And now Yonhap matches my guess quite accurately. (My guessed TLE gives 4420 km apo, 920 km range)

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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #371 on: 11/28/2017 07:18 PM »
By the altitude achieved it could be a Hwasong-14.

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« Reply #372 on: 11/28/2017 07:33 PM »
By the altitude achieved it could be a Hwasong-14.

Possibly testing the re-entry vehicle again after reports of prior failures on past launches.

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« Last Edit: 11/28/2017 07:59 PM by Rocket Science »
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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #374 on: 11/28/2017 09:30 PM »
IMMEDIATE RELEASE    No. NR-401-17
Nov. 28, 2017
Statement by Pentagon Spokesman Col. Robert Manning on North Korea ICBM Launch

The U.S. Department of Defense detected and tracked a single North Korea missile launch today at about 1:17 p.m. EST. Initial assessment indicates that this missile was an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM).

The missile was launched from Sain Ni, North Korea, and traveled about 1000 km before splashing down in the Sea of Japan, within Japan's Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). We are working with our interagency partners on a more detailed assessment of the launch.

The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) determined the missile launch from North Korea did not pose a threat to North America, our territories or our allies.

Our commitment to the defense of our allies, including the Republic of Korea and Japan, in the face of these threats, remains ironclad. We remain prepared to defend ourselves and our allies from any attack or provocation.
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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #375 on: 11/28/2017 09:48 PM »
"We are working with our interagency partners on a more detailed assessment of the launch."

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/what-happens-when-north-korea-launches-a-missile/
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« Reply #376 on: 11/29/2017 12:27 AM »
Apparently, the missile flew to an altitude of 2800 miles on a "flat trajectory" - demonstrating much greater capability than ever shown before:






http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-north-korea-ballistic-missile-20171128-story.html



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The missile, which was launched early Wednesday local time, traveled some 620 miles and reached a height of about 2,800 miles before landing off the coast of Japan and flew for a total of 54 minutes. This suggested that it had been fired almost straight up — on a lofted trajectory similar to North Korea's two previous intercontinental ballistic missile tests.

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If it had flown on a standard trajectory designed to maximize its reach, this missile would have a range of more than 8,100 miles, said David Wright, co-director of the global security program at the Union of Concerned Scientists.
« Last Edit: 11/29/2017 12:43 AM by sanman »

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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #377 on: 11/29/2017 01:28 AM »
The Pentagon announcement quoted above gives the launch site as being "Sain Ni".   Is this a new launch site or is it one which we know under a different name?
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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #378 on: 11/29/2017 01:45 AM »
Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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Re: North Korea missiles
« Reply #379 on: 11/29/2017 02:15 AM »
Interesting time when everyone hopes that NK "only" tested another (3rd)  HS-14.

Looks like there will be a special NK TV report soon. New pictures to ponder over.


Edit says:
There were no pictures of the launch but as usual of Kim the launch order. HS-15  :-\

Via Anna Fifield and others.
« Last Edit: 11/29/2017 03:08 AM by Chasm »