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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #620 on: 11/07/2017 08:53 PM »
That's one reason why the NASA charter is such an inconvenient thing for them, because it reflects the reality of a bunch of related interests all being codified in a single civilian agency.

Looking at this from a slightly different angle...There were those who argued NASA should have been created to accomplish one goal--to put a man on the Moon and return him safely to the Earth.  Having done so, the agency would be dissolved.

Or, once Jack Kennedy promulgated the lunar landing goal and Congress approved by approving the budget items to do so, that NASA should have confined itself to the Moon-landing mission until that mission was accomplished.

Sometimes, the NASA Charter is an inconvenience even to a President who was very pro-NASA.
Sometimes, a NASA Administrator has to stand up to the President to protect the fuller set of goals for his (or her) agency, but not directly defy his superior.
https://history.nasa.gov/JFK-Webbconv/pages/transcript.pdf

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President Kennedy: Wait a minute—is that saying that the lunar program to land the man
on the Moon is the top priority of the Agency, is it?

Unknown speaker: And the science that goes with it….

Robert Seamans: Well, yes, if you add that, the science that is necessary….

President Kennedy: The science…. Going to the Moon is the top-priority project. Now,
there are a lot of related scientific information and developments that will come from that
which are important. But the whole thrust of the Agency, in my opinion, is the lunar
program. The rest of it can wait six or nine months.

Sorry for the wall o' text.

There's more, and I encourage those interested to read the document, but I think you get the "gist."

Then, we'll go out for an adult beverage. :)

I love that you cite that transcript, because I was one of the people who prepared that transcript for NASA and it warms my cold cold heart when somebody cites something I did two decades ago. Dig around on their history site and you should be able to find several pages that explain that and some related conversations that Kennedy had about space.

This is a case--well, really, everything is a case--where you have to ask when the conversation happened and what was the context. Kennedy's views on the role of NASA changed, and changed back a bit. He approved Apollo and he thought that Apollo was the overwhelming most important thing. But James Webb argued with him that NASA performed other important missions as well, and Apollo should not be allowed to detract from them. Webb managed to define "leadership" in terms of a broad range of capabilities, not simply being far out ahead on one thing. Kennedy came around to Webb's viewpoint.


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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #621 on: 11/07/2017 09:49 PM »
Surely you must be joking. If we are looking among forum users... I think Blackstar would be a far better candidate. Or Wayne Hale. Or HMXHMX, or Jongoff ....Or even Jim!

Well, I think I'm half-serious.  You yourself said, near the beginning of this thread:
This thesis, that having a fan run things is actually a good idea,
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More seriously, I would hope whoever it is truly loves space and wants to see us expand outward.

I think, from my time here, that you fit that bill as well.

Besides, I already seconded Wayne Hale, earlier in this thread, and he turned it down, originally quoted here.
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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #623 on: 11/08/2017 11:57 AM »
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/d391090f-d8b9-44ea-89ed-f9971d81e4dc/F25F534407152F26F95A114A2A2797D6.majority-qfrs---bridenstine.pdf

Is anybody having any luck with that link?  I get a not-found error from senate.gov.

More generally, does anyone know how to find testimony submitted for the record in general, for both House and Senate?  There are some things I've been trying to track down for years.

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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #624 on: 11/08/2017 02:02 PM »
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Bridenstine confirmation advances on a party-line vote, 14-13.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/928276036923678721

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The nomination goes on to the full Senate for a confirmation vote, date to be determined.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/928276355543982080
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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #625 on: 11/08/2017 05:42 PM »
The U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation will vote on the Bridenstine nomination next week (vote by the entire senate would follow at some point after that):

Quote from: The U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
4. Nomination of James Bridenstine, of Oklahoma, to be Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration

Executive Session Details:

Wednesday, November 8, 2017
9:45 a.m.
Full Committee Markup [...]

A live video of the markup and additional information will be available at www.commerce.senate.gov.

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/11/executive-session

The webcast of the markup has now been archived:

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/11/executive-session

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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #626 on: 11/08/2017 05:45 PM »
See also:

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4. Nomination of James Bridenstine, of Oklahoma, to be Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (agreed by roll call vote: 14-13)

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/11/senate-commerce-approves-the-stop-enabling-sex-traffickers-act-nominations
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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #628 on: 11/08/2017 06:02 PM »
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/d391090f-d8b9-44ea-89ed-f9971d81e4dc/F25F534407152F26F95A114A2A2797D6.majority-qfrs---bridenstine.pdf

Is anybody having any luck with that link?  I get a not-found error from senate.gov.

More generally, does anyone know how to find testimony submitted for the record in general, for both House and Senate?  There are some things I've been trying to track down for years.

I'm pretty sure it's here somewhere: https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record 

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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #630 on: 11/08/2017 10:46 PM »
The U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation will vote on the Bridenstine nomination next week (vote by the entire senate would follow at some point after that):

Quote from: The U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
4. Nomination of James Bridenstine, of Oklahoma, to be Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration

Executive Session Details:

Wednesday, November 8, 2017
9:45 a.m.
Full Committee Markup [...]

A live video of the markup and additional information will be available at www.commerce.senate.gov.

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/11/executive-session

The webcast of the markup has now been archived:

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2017/11/executive-session

The beginning of the webcast above was cut off but the full webcast can be found here (discussion of Bridenstine is at the beginning of this webcast):

https://www.c-span.org/video/?437016-1/former-equifax-yahoo-ceos-testify-data-breaches
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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #631 on: 11/11/2017 07:10 PM »
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His nomination will now head to a full Senate vote which will probably take place before Thanksgiving.

http://www.news9.com/story/36794165/bridenstine-one-step-closer-to-nasa-leadership-position

That's probably a guess on their part. But it would make sense that the full Senate would vote on Bridenstine's nomination prior to the Thanksgiving recess.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/2017_schedule.htm

P.S. The picture of Bridenstine shaking hands with Senator Nelson (in the article below) prior to the hearing is interesting:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/08/nasa-nominee-faces-partisan-floor-fignasa-nominee-gets-senate-panel-ok-but-faces-partisan-floor-figh/843607001/
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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #632 on: 11/13/2017 01:24 AM »
Jim Bridenstine Has the Right Stuff for NASA Administrator, opinion by by Greg Autry:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gregautry/2017/11/12/jim-bridenstine-has-the-right-stuff/#3ef7fbc23abc

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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #633 on: 11/13/2017 02:00 PM »
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His nomination will now head to a full Senate vote which will probably take place before Thanksgiving.

http://www.news9.com/story/36794165/bridenstine-one-step-closer-to-nasa-leadership-position

That's probably a guess on their part. But it would make sense that the full Senate would vote on Bridenstine's nomination prior to the Thanksgiving recess.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/2017_schedule.htm


That's a pretty bad guess.  Unless Bridenstine managed to magically win favor from the Democrats in the last few days, they will continue to try to stop him. If the Republicans have the votes to confirm him, they will have to overcome some procedural hurdles to get to a floor vote, which takes time. If not, they will have to work to shore up support on their side, which also takes time and has an uncertain outcome.  In any case, even Christmas could be optimistic, much less Thanksgiving.     

I'm not sure that photo means a whole lot other than the fact that Senator Nelson is "old school" and typically very polite. I think that photo was from the hearing, correct? Before he and the rest of the committee Democrats voted unanimously to oppose him. 

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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #634 on: 11/13/2017 06:11 PM »
FWIW, Bridenstine's name is now on the Senate's executive calendar (no. 466):

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/executive_calendar/xcalv.pdf
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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #635 on: 11/16/2017 01:23 AM »
The vote by the Full senate on Bridenstine's nomination could possibly be before Christmas (as part of a large package of nominations):

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The chamber [i.e., the Senate] could also continue to process nominations during the schedule extension. Republicans hope the threat of staying in Washington, D.C. longer could help pressure Democrats into supporting a large package of nominations, similar to one passed in August.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/senate-murmurs-about-staying-in-dc-beyond-dec-18
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Re: Who should be the next NASA Administrator?
« Reply #636 on: 11/19/2017 06:47 AM »
Bridenstine’s vote still looking very tight:

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Marco Rubio's reservations put Trump's NASA nominee in jeopardy

LEDYARD KING | THE NEWS-PRESS Washington bureau
Updated 7 hours ago

Florida GOP Sen. Marco Rubio continues to harbor deep reservations about Rep. Jim Bridenstine’s nomination to be NASA’s next administrator, dimming the Oklahoma Republican’s chances of running the space agency.

http://www.news-press.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/18/marco-rubios-reservations-put-trumps-nasa-nominee-jeopardy/877400001/

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