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Offline gadgetmind

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #880 on: 11/09/2017 12:30 PM »
Anybody not getting email notifications from threads that you requested notification on?
Just stopped working last night for me.

Stopped for me too with last email at 2017-10-31 03:22 GMT (but I could have read/deleted some.)


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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #881 on: 11/09/2017 03:03 PM »
Is it possible to get any logging from the email sender to see what error is being given?

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #882 on: 11/09/2017 03:40 PM »
I also did all of the above to find the problem. I looked thru by email server logs(rollernet.us) and could see no contact from nasaspaceflight.com.
My email address domain in question was bobsbits.net

I did do some digging (literally dig) and found this:
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bob@USPONRDAVIS1/c/src903$ dig @cody.ns.cloudflare.com gmail.com

; <<>> DiG 9.9.3-P2 <<>> @cody.ns.cloudflare.com gmail.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 42161
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gmail.com.                     IN      A

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 173.245.59.107#53(173.245.59.107)
;; WHEN: Thu Nov 09 11:33:15 EST 2017
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 38

So gmail does work (as an email address) but from my end nasaspaceflight.com doesn't allow the answer.
When done with googles nameservers:

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bob@USPONRDAVIS1/c/src903$ dig @8.8.8.8 gmail.com

; <<>> DiG 9.9.3-P2 <<>> @8.8.8.8 gmail.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50589
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gmail.com.                     IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
gmail.com.              45      IN      A       172.217.11.5

;; Query time: 15 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Thu Nov 09 11:35:00 EST 2017
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 54

I do get the answer section.
The only thing I can see is the
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;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

which may indicate the problem of the nameserver being incorrectly configured.
Name servers are arranged in a hierarchy to reduce load so when one server doesn't know the answer it goes to the next one up the hierarchy.
So recursive means go up the hierarchy( I think?)


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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #883 on: 11/09/2017 03:57 PM »
I don't understand the digs you're doing given they don't cover the problem email address.

I've used dig and https://mxtoolbox.com/ and can't see anything wrong with my domain's MX records.

Offline rsdavis9

Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #884 on: 11/09/2017 04:06 PM »
I get the same results with my gmail.com address as my bobsbits.net.
So the dig's I am doing don't really help isolate the problem.
I was only trying to illustrate what might be the problem by the only warning that dig gives back.
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #885 on: 11/09/2017 04:37 PM »
My dig with domain redacted. All looks good.

$ dig @8.8.8.8 xxxxxxx.co.uk

; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> @8.8.8.8 xxxxxx.co.uk
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50284
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;xxxxxxx.co.uk.         IN   A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
xxxxxxx.co.uk.      1799   IN   SOA   ns1.interdns.co.uk. admin.interdns.co.uk. 1199987926 900 600 86400 3600

;; Query time: 41 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Thu Nov 09 17:35:37 GMT 2017
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 97

Offline rsdavis9

Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #886 on: 11/09/2017 07:47 PM »
Now how about when you do the same dig against the nasaspaceflight.com namservers.
just do
whois nasaspaceflight.com
which gives you their nameservers.
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #887 on: 11/10/2017 11:02 AM »
Ah, with you now.

Yes, I get the same issue as you regards recursion and the authority section is missing.

; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.4-Ubuntu <<>> @CODY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM xxxxxxx.co.uk
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 2353
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;xxxxxxx.co.uk.                 IN      A

;; Query time: 23 msec
;; SERVER: 173.245.59.107#53(173.245.59.107)
;; WHEN: Fri Nov 10 11:59:03 GMT 2017
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 42

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #888 on: 11/10/2017 11:08 AM »
I'm checking whether this is expected behaviour but suspect it is.

What we'd like to know is what DNS server nsf uses for outgoing mail, and what errors might be occurring.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #889 on: 11/16/2017 09:44 AM »
Is there a way to create a poll in this forum in which a user can select multiple options, rather than just one? If not, is this an easy thing to do?


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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #890 on: 11/21/2017 05:54 PM »
Getting 502's and 504's when i go to the front page, a few refreshes lets the page load. Not if I go direct to the forums.
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #891 on: 11/21/2017 05:58 PM »
Seems OK for me. Could have been a temp outage on wordpress, but let me know if it's cleared or not.

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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #892 on: 11/21/2017 06:00 PM »
Seems OK for me. Could have been a temp outage on wordpress, but let me know if it's cleared or not.
good now thanks
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #893 on: 11/21/2017 06:02 PM »
Something simple: it would be nice to have a button at the bottom of each page that returns the user straight to the NSF home page.

Thanks,
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Re: New NSF Feedback Thread
« Reply #894 on: 11/21/2017 06:17 PM »
You perhaps might consider renaming the site away from NASASpaceFlight. I know that it's connected to the "brand" of the site and to a certain credibility, however it doesn't reflect the diversity of the subjects covered, not the people who participate.

To be honest, with the caliber of content that this site generates, both in the forums and in the articles, the re-association to a new name would be rapid and a carefully thought name would be more indicative of what this site is.

InternationalSpaceFlight is available - in the very least you should grab that domain before it's gone and think about it...

Plus ISF is better than NSF. I think most people immdiately think of the National Science Foundation when they see those initials.
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