Notice that Bloomberg is saying very definitively that the satellite was lost.
Lieutenant General Arnold Bunch, the Air Force’s top uniformed acquisition official, said in a separate interview, “I can’t say a whole lot about what all happened” but for “anything that goes forward” in terms of a formal investigation “we’ll be involved in the process” of analyzing data.
Yaay @IridumBoss... the best companies have customers that go to bat for them, because they get great service from them.
More good news:SpaceX gets good news from the Air Force on the Zuma missionQuote"Based on the data available, our team did not identify any information that would change SpaceX's Falcon 9 certification status," Lieutenant General John Thompson, commander of the Space and Missile Systems Center, told Bloomberg News. This qualified conclusion came after a preliminary review of data from the Zuma launch. That's according to Thompson, who said the Air Force will continue to review data from all launches.https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/spacex-gets-good-news-from-the-air-force-on-the-zuma-mission/
"Based on the data available, our team did not identify any information that would change SpaceX's Falcon 9 certification status," Lieutenant General John Thompson, commander of the Space and Missile Systems Center, told Bloomberg News. This qualified conclusion came after a preliminary review of data from the Zuma launch. That's according to Thompson, who said the Air Force will continue to review data from all launches.
Quote from: tvg98 on 01/22/2018 09:45 pmMore good news:SpaceX gets good news from the Air Force on the Zuma missionQuote"Based on the data available, our team did not identify any information that would change SpaceX's Falcon 9 certification status," Lieutenant General John Thompson, commander of the Space and Missile Systems Center, told Bloomberg News. This qualified conclusion came after a preliminary review of data from the Zuma launch. That's according to Thompson, who said the Air Force will continue to review data from all launches.https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/spacex-gets-good-news-from-the-air-force-on-the-zuma-mission/I'm not sure this qualifies as good news though, the AF simply said there's no change to F9's certification status, but would the certification status change if there's a failure? I would assume the answer is no, you don't get kicked out of the NSS club for a failure. So it seems to me this statement doesn't carry any useful information.
I'm not sure this qualifies as good news though, the AF simply said there's no change to F9's certification status, but would the certification status change if there's a failure? I would assume the answer is no, you don't get kicked out of the NSS club for a failure. So it seems to me this statement doesn't carry any useful information.
"Based on the data available, our team did not identify any information that would change SpaceX’s Falcon 9 certification status” after “a preliminary review of telemetry that was available to us”
Quote from: su27k on 01/23/2018 09:24 amQuote from: tvg98 on 01/22/2018 09:45 pmMore good news:SpaceX gets good news from the Air Force on the Zuma missionQuote"Based on the data available, our team did not identify any information that would change SpaceX's Falcon 9 certification status," Lieutenant General John Thompson, commander of the Space and Missile Systems Center, told Bloomberg News. This qualified conclusion came after a preliminary review of data from the Zuma launch. That's according to Thompson, who said the Air Force will continue to review data from all launches.https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/spacex-gets-good-news-from-the-air-force-on-the-zuma-mission/I'm not sure this qualifies as good news though, the AF simply said there's no change to F9's certification status, but would the certification status change if there's a failure? I would assume the answer is no, you don't get kicked out of the NSS club for a failure. So it seems to me this statement doesn't carry any useful information.Emphasis mine.Your assessment is correct. Remember when AMOS-6 happened? Guess what the Air Force stated two weeks later:http://spacenews.com/falcon-9-accident-wont-affect-air-force-certification/And that most certainly was a F9 failure.So basically, this latest statement from USAF does nothing to exonerate Falcon 9.
Quote from: woods170 on 01/23/2018 11:20 amSo basically, this latest statement from USAF does nothing to exonerate Falcon 9.It doesn't need exonerating. It worked to the specification. This is the only public fact.
So basically, this latest statement from USAF does nothing to exonerate Falcon 9.
SpaceX Lost Satellite on U.S. Mission Was Uninsured
“The policy of the U.S. government has been that they do not buy insurance. They rely on the taxpayer to foot the bill when things go wrong.”
So much for 'self-insurance':QuoteSpaceX Lost Satellite on U.S. Mission Was UninsuredQuote “The policy of the U.S. government has been that they do not buy insurance. They rely on the taxpayer to foot the bill when things go wrong.”
Quote from: AncientU on 01/23/2018 05:17 pmSo much for 'self-insurance':QuoteSpaceX Lost Satellite on U.S. Mission Was UninsuredQuote “The policy of the U.S. government has been that they do not buy insurance. They rely on the taxpayer to foot the bill when things go wrong.”Not sure why the confusion, that's exactly what self-insurance means.
Self-insure is a method of managing risk by setting aside a pool of money to be used if an unexpected loss occurs. Theoretically, one can self-insure against any type of loss. However, in practice, most people choose to buy insurance against potentially large, infrequent losses.
Lacking the foresight to set aside this pool of money is called 'no insurance'
Quote from: abaddon on 01/23/2018 05:19 pmQuote from: AncientU on 01/23/2018 05:17 pmSo much for 'self-insurance':QuoteSpaceX Lost Satellite on U.S. Mission Was UninsuredQuote “The policy of the U.S. government has been that they do not buy insurance. They rely on the taxpayer to foot the bill when things go wrong.”Not sure why the confusion, that's exactly what self-insurance means.QuoteSelf-insure is a method of managing risk by setting aside a pool of money to be used if an unexpected loss occurs. Theoretically, one can self-insure against any type of loss. However, in practice, most people choose to buy insurance against potentially large, infrequent losses.Lacking the foresight to set aside this pool of money is called 'no insurance'
So much for 'self-insurance':QuoteSpaceX Lost Satellite on U.S. Mission Was UninsuredQuote “The policy of the U.S. government has been that they do not buy insurance. They rely on the taxpayer to foot the bill when things go wrong.”https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2018/01/23/478112.htmEdit: added reference
ISTM SpaceX wouldn't sue because pre-trial discovery could reveal things ZUMA_Owner rather not be made public.