We will travel in tubes!Get the scientists working on tube technology. Chop chop!-Tenacious D
Musk at one point said he'd do a "demo" hyperloop if he had too. Given how little support California is giving him I'm going to go out on a limb and say he'll probably have too IIRC the hyperloop "vacuum" isn't all that hard and we have the technolgy and know-how to keep pressure in and/or out so it wouldn't be all that hard to do a short demo version. HOWEVER, it's going to cost and I don't see him realistically putting out the money when he's got other plans.Randy
Ich glaube, der Hyperloop liegt vorn. Aber vielleicht mit einer anderen Strecke. Es gibt Interesse für die Strecke Los Angeles–Las Vegas.
Quote from: RanulfC on 11/14/2014 05:45 pmMusk at one point said he'd do a "demo" hyperloop if he had too. Given how little support California is giving him I'm going to go out on a limb and say he'll probably have too IIRC the hyperloop "vacuum" isn't all that hard and we have the technolgy and know-how to keep pressure in and/or out so it wouldn't be all that hard to do a short demo version. HOWEVER, it's going to cost and I don't see him realistically putting out the money when he's got other plans.He talked in the interview about a Hyperloop link to Las Vegas. QuoteIch glaube, der Hyperloop liegt vorn. Aber vielleicht mit einer anderen Strecke. Es gibt Interesse für die Strecke Los AngelesLas Vegas.I believe, Hyperloop is ahead (of Mars). But maybe with another link (than Los Angeles - San Francisco). There is interest in a link Los Angeles - Las Vegas.So there must be someone, probably with money, behind it.
Musk at one point said he'd do a "demo" hyperloop if he had too. Given how little support California is giving him I'm going to go out on a limb and say he'll probably have too IIRC the hyperloop "vacuum" isn't all that hard and we have the technolgy and know-how to keep pressure in and/or out so it wouldn't be all that hard to do a short demo version. HOWEVER, it's going to cost and I don't see him realistically putting out the money when he's got other plans.
Ich glaube, der Hyperloop liegt vorn. Aber vielleicht mit einer anderen Strecke. Es gibt Interesse für die Strecke Los AngelesLas Vegas.
I think Hyperloop is complete nonsense. The potential for disaster from a problem, intentional or otherwise is so extreme there's no chance it will be built. Even emergency braking at 10 Gs would be nowhere near enough to prevent catastrophe if anything went wrong with the tube.
Quote from: Nomadd on 11/15/2014 02:27 am I think Hyperloop is complete nonsense. The potential for disaster from a problem, intentional or otherwise is so extreme there's no chance it will be built. Even emergency braking at 10 Gs would be nowhere near enough to prevent catastrophe if anything went wrong with the tube.What do you mean wrong with the tube? You mean the tube just spontaneously breaking?That doesn't seem any more likely to me than a section of a road bridge spontaneously falling away.
Quote from: ChrisWilson68 on 11/15/2014 02:58 amQuote from: Nomadd on 11/15/2014 02:27 am I think Hyperloop is complete nonsense. The potential for disaster from a problem, intentional or otherwise is so extreme there's no chance it will be built. Even emergency braking at 10 Gs would be nowhere near enough to prevent catastrophe if anything went wrong with the tube.What do you mean wrong with the tube? You mean the tube just spontaneously breaking?That doesn't seem any more likely to me than a section of a road bridge spontaneously falling away.Well to be fair, California keeps popping up as at least one destination of the tube. Earthquakes do lend themselves to near instantaneous disasters and the estimated speeds of vehicles in the tube would make quick stops quite difficult. On the other hand, it is as likely that people not in the tube could be injured during an earthquake.
Putting people in aluminum tubes with wings and dangling them thousands of feet above the surface at hundreds of miles per hour also seems sort of dangerous. Putting office/residential space hundreds of feet up in air also sounds kind of dangerous. Giving barely tested/trained teens drugs, alcohol and control of a multi-ton vehicle with speeds upwards of 100 mph seems sort of dangerous.
Quote from: ncb1397 on 11/15/2014 08:43 amPutting people in aluminum tubes with wings and dangling them thousands of feet above the surface at hundreds of miles per hour also seems sort of dangerous. Putting office/residential space hundreds of feet up in air also sounds kind of dangerous. Giving barely tested/trained teens drugs, alcohol and control of a multi-ton vehicle with speeds upwards of 100 mph seems sort of dangerous. The speed of a vactrain is much higher than of a plane. And a train is much heavier. The energy released during a catastrophe will be enormous.
"vactrains" don't have one speed. They are simply more energy efficient bullet trains with a corresponding higher top speed. Whether that top speed is utilized regularly is another matter. Bullet trains typically don't go full tilt either.