Reading the transcript, there is nothing that states that the Falcon 9 will be recovered during this flight (or that some recovery procedures would be tested); in fact, Elon only refers to CRS-3 in this context.
Someone had an inside source, but I don't remember the specifics.
Quote from: Spugpow on 05/03/2013 07:09 amSomeone had an inside source, but I don't remember the specifics. To be clear, there was a post that suggested that there was a rumor that maybe SpaceX would try some recovery procedures during the Cassiope flight, but zero confirmation.Note that I am not saying that there won't be a test during this flight, only that there is no data from SpaceX indicating there will be.For now, all we have is a rumor.
Anybody have any info on CASSIOPE?
Quote from: Danderman on 05/03/2013 02:46 pmQuote from: Spugpow on 05/03/2013 07:09 amSomeone had an inside source, but I don't remember the specifics. To be clear, there was a post that suggested that there was a rumor that maybe SpaceX would try some recovery procedures during the Cassiope flight, but zero confirmation.Note that I am not saying that there won't be a test during this flight, only that there is no data from SpaceX indicating there will be.For now, all we have is a rumor.not rumor
Jim, if you could get us something (other than your say so) to verify that SpaceX are going to attempt recovery of the first stage on this flight, that'd be great. So far there's no explicit public statements to that effect from SpaceX, but it's certainly the impression I got.
Quote from: QuantumG on 05/03/2013 11:38 pmJim, if you could get us something (other than your say so) to verify that SpaceX are going to attempt recovery of the first stage on this flight, that'd be great. So far there's no explicit public statements to that effect from SpaceX, but it's certainly the impression I got.I didn't get the impression that they were going to recover the stage from Jim. He just said they would attempt the burns needed for flyback and attempt to bring it to a water landing.
Quote from: JBF on 05/03/2013 11:55 pmQuote from: QuantumG on 05/03/2013 11:38 pmJim, if you could get us something (other than your say so) to verify that SpaceX are going to attempt recovery of the first stage on this flight, that'd be great. So far there's no explicit public statements to that effect from SpaceX, but it's certainly the impression I got.I didn't get the impression that they were going to recover the stage from Jim. He just said they would attempt the burns needed for flyback and attempt to bring it to a water landing.Yes, that's all I meant by "recovery". There's no explicit public SpaceX statements that this will be attempted on this flight. If Jim can provide something for us, that'd be great.
{snip}During the NASA/SpaceX teleconference on the CRS-2 mission, Elon Musk confirmed the rumors that they will do a propulsive return test on the upcoming flight of the new Falcon V1.1. He expanded on this to say they will continue doing such tests until they can do a return to the launch site and a powered landing.For the upcoming flight, after stage separation the first stage booster will do a burn to slow it down and then a second burn just before it reaches the water.In subsequent flights they will continue these over-water tests. He repeatedly emphasized that he expects several failures before they learn how to do it right.If all goes well with the over-water tests, they will fly back to launch site and land propulsively. He expects this could happen by mid-2014. Since they don't know how many tests they will need, they don't know exactly which flight this would be.This is a very accelerated schedule from what most people expected. If they succeed at flying back and landing the first stage, that would be a real revolution in space transport.From: http://www.newspacewatch.com/articles/spacex-moving-quickly-towards-fly-back-first-stage.html
Like I stated above, Musk said they would do a propulsive landing over water in the NASA/Spacex Teleconference on the CRS-2 mission. Quote from: Clark LindseyDuring the NASA/SpaceX teleconference on the CRS-2 mission, Elon Musk confirmed the rumors that they will do a propulsive return test on the upcoming flight of the new Falcon V1.1.
During the NASA/SpaceX teleconference on the CRS-2 mission, Elon Musk confirmed the rumors that they will do a propulsive return test on the upcoming flight of the new Falcon V1.1.
So, this year is about just recovering - hopefully recovering - the first stage, at all, from an ocean landing and then next year it'll be the boost-back, return to launch site, with the landing gear deployed. That's our aspiration.
As I said, there's no explicit statement that the CASSIOPE flight will be the flight they attempt an ocean landing with. I expect it will be, but I'd prefer an explicit statement if possible.
Quote from: QuantumG on 05/04/2013 12:26 amAs I said, there's no explicit statement that the CASSIOPE flight will be the flight they attempt an ocean landing with. I expect it will be, but I'd prefer an explicit statement if possible.I'm pretty sure it was explicitly stated.